projects | collaborations
'ephemeral' fluid variations
'bordun chorus' bordun chorus
'fluid variations' fluid variations
'harmonic environment' harmonic environment
'temporality' temporality
'green meadow' green meadow
'multitudinous entity' multitudinous entity
'which is
without being'
which is without being
'primordial' primordial
'clouds rising
from the mist
of time'
clouds rising from the mist of time
'iridescent self' iridescent self
'shifting view' shifting view
'toxic waste' toxic waste
'burning butterflies' burning butterflies
'lament' lament
'exercise in visual notation' exercise in visual notation
'screen test #2' screen test #2
'nothing' nothing
'silent cry' silent cry
'suppressed anger'   suppressed angerger
'DBP'   DBP
'out of reach'   out of reach
News

 

 

01 October 2017

Selected to exhibit a wall based installation of 'ephemeral' at:

The London Group Open 2017, Part One

The London Group Open 2017

Part One: 8 - 17 November 2017
2pm - 6pm daily

The Cello Factory
33-34 Cornwall Road
London SE1 8TJ

26 August 2017

My third single will be released with RESTERECORDS on the 4th of September 2017:

A 24 minute recording of ephemeral will be released through the label RESTERECORDS and it will be available on their Bandcamp page and on all major digital platforms from the 4th of September 2017.

ephemeral cover artwork

29 July 2017

Selected to screen a 10 min recording of ‘ephemeral’ at:

ESPACIO ENTER CANARIAS 2017 - International Festival of Creativity, Innovation & Digital Culture

Espacio Enter Canarias 2015

24th to 27th August of 2017

Category: Artists International Call2017
Tag: generative art

TEA Tenerife Espacio de las Artes
Avda. de San Sebastián, 10
38003 S/C de Tenerife.
ISLAS CANARIAS

20 November 2016

Selected to screen a 10 min recording of ‘fluid variations’ at:

ESPACIO ENTER CANARIAS 2016 - International Festival of Creativity, Innovation & Digital Culture

Espacio Enter Canarias 2015

12th to 18th December of 2016

Category: Artists International Call2016
Tag: generative art

TEA Tenerife Espacio de las Artes
Avda. de San Sebastián, 10
38003 S/C de Tenerife.
ISLAS CANARIAS

10 October 2016

My second release with Resterecords on 5th of October 2016 opens with a 2 day installation of 'bordun chorus' at Cafe Oto Project Space:

5th and 6th November
11am to 8pm
Free entry

More details here.

Cafe Oto Project Space
1-7 Ashwin St,
London, E8 3DL

A 22 minute recording of bordun chorus, released by Resterecord, will be available on Bandcamp and on all major digital platforms (Apple Music, Spotify) from the 5th of October 2016.

bordun chorus cover artwork

5 September 2016

Invited to perform at:

Transfigured Night

A night of experimental electronic music featuring live electronics, live coding, audio-visual works, new instruments.

Saturday 10th September 7pm
Free entry, booking advised here


Participating Artists:
Ain Bailey, Alo Allik & Andrea Young featuring Sharon Chohi Kim and Sara Sinclair Gomez, Christian Faubel, Harmergeddon, Jockel Liess, lil data, xname
 
The Mile End Art Pavilion - Clinton Road, London, E3 4QY, United Kingdom

Album Launch Party of Ulterior by Matschulat

15 June 2016

Invited to perform at:

The Deptford Cinema for the Album Launch Party of Ulterior by Matschulat on Resterecords.

This event is a Fundraising evening to help save Deptford Cinema.
Tickets cost £4 (£2 conc. available for locals, students, unemployed and 60+).

Tuesday 28th June
Doors will open at 19h00.

PROGRAMM
 
20h00: Jockel Liess (live-generative audiovisual performance)
20h45: Matschulat (fixed media piece + live improvised electroacoustic music)
 
ADDRESS
39 Deptford Broadway SE8 4PQ

Album Launch Party of Ulterior by Matschulat

21 April 2016

My first single will be released on the 9th of May 2016:

An 18 minute recording of fluid variations will be released through the label resterecords and it will be available on its Bandcamp page and on all major digital platforms (Apple Music, Spotify) from the 9th May 2016.

fluid variations cover artwork

25 March 2016

Invited to perform an excerpt of 'harmonic environment' at:

Noizemaschin!! London - a monthly noise and experimental music concert at the Amersham Arms

388 New Cross Road, SE14 6TY London, United Kingdom

Entry: £5

Doors 19.30

noizemaschin!! London

SET 1: 8pm-9pm
Dirch Blewn, David Webb, Khaled Kaddel, Medial Ages, Tom Richards

INTERMISSION 9-9:45pm

SET 2: 9:45-10:30pm
Jockel Liess, Michael Zbyszyński, Illi Adato

21 November 2015

Selected to screen a 10 min recording of ‘temporality’ at:

ESPACIO ENTER CANARIAS 2015 - International Festival of Creativity, Innovation & Digital Culture

Espacio Enter Canarias 2015

4th to 13th December of 2015

Category: Artists International Call2015
Tag: generative art

TEA Tenerife Espacio de las Artes
Avda. de San Sebastián, 10
38003 S/C de Tenerife.
ISLAS CANARIAS

01 November 2015

Invited to take part in the Channel Normal Pavilion:

Equalizer.space at the 2015 The Wrong New Digital Art Biennale

Curated by Channel Normal
Designed by Lawrence Lek

The pavilion will be hosted online at www.equalizer.space from November 1st, 2015 to January 31st 2016

For the digital exhibition, the pavilion will be streamed online, with visitors of the 3D Pavilion able to navigate the simulated acoustic space triggering different works by the ten artists.

The digital pavilion itself will be designed by video artist/digital architect Lawrence Lek using 3d video game software, based on the atmosphere and the sonic signature of the artists’ tracks.

Depending on the visitors movements, the virtual pavilion will visually respond to the acoustic environment resulting in a real-time audiovisual composition.

2015 The Wrong

10 September 2015

Invited to take part in the Surface Arts exhibition:

Surface Arts at SLUICE_2015 Art Fair

Curated by Katie Jade Hawker

5th Floor, Bargehouse, Oxo Tower Wharf, South Bank, London

Private View: 15 October 2015, 5 - 8.30pm
Art Fair: 16 October - 18 October
Opening Times: 11.00am - 6.00pm
Admission: Free

Surface Arts at SLUICE_2015

SLUICE_2015

25 June 2015

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'ACROSS THE OCEAN' A Contemporary Art Exhibition by the Beach

Further details at: TAIL (Thai Art Initiative in London)

Opening day:  July 11th, 11 am to 9pm
Exhibition Dates:  11th to 17th July, 11 am to 5 pm daily

Bournemouth Pier,
Bournemouth, Dorset
United Kingdom 

Across the Ocean

 

Featured artists:

Puangsoi Aksornsawang | Felipe Castelblanco | Ittirawee Chotirawee| Tintin Cooper | Dusadee Huntrakul | Ralph Kiggell | Kanittah & Nitipak | Jockel Liess | Vichaya (Win) Mukdamanee | Miti Ruangkritya | Pannaporn Saichaemjan | Sikarnt Skoolisariyaporn | Prateep Suthathongthai | Prachayaporn Vorananta | Tom Potisit


 Curated by:

Sirasar Boonma, Kittima Chareeprasit, Loredana Pazzini-Paracciani and Vipash Purichanont

20 February 2015

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'Distance, Between the Journeys' - TADU-Thaiyarnyon Contemporary Art, Bangkok, Thailand

Distance, Between the Journeys

01 November 2014

Selected to screen a 10 min recording of ‘green meadow’ at:

ESPACIO ENTER CANARIAS 2014 - International Festival of Creativity, Innovation & Digital Culture

Espacio Enter Canarias 2013

5th to 7th December of 2014

Category: Artists International Call2014
Tag: softwareart

TEA Tenerife Espacio de las Artes
Avda. de San Sebastián, 10
38003 S/C de Tenerife.
ISLAS CANARIAS

13 October 2014

Interview published with Stigmart VideoFocus Autumn 2014:

http://issuu.com/stigmart10press/docs/stigmart_videofocus_autumn_2014

videofocus

videofocus cover

01 October 2014

Invited to take part in the project:

'Microworld : Kinetica' @ Kinetica Artfair, curated by Genetic Moo

Come along and get involved in an experimental digital ecosystem.

16th – 19th October 2014

Kinetica Artfair
Old Truman Brewery
London

Microworld : Kinetica

06 May 2014

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'Microworld Cardiff 2' @ ArcadeCardiff, curated by Genetic Moo

Come along and get involved in an experimental digital ecosystem.

26th to 31st of May, Open Daily 12-6PM ADMISSION FREE
Private View Friday the 24th of May 6.00 - 8.00pm

Facebook event page for more information on the show and artists.

ArcadeCardiff
Queens Arcade
Cardiff, CF10 2BY

Microworld Cardiff 2

Another chance to enter a digital ecosystem of interacting artworks at ArcadeCardiff.

This year's show will include work by Genetic Moo, Sean Olsen, Myles Leadbetter, Jockel Liess, Sean Clark, Banfield&Rees, Gudrun Sigridur Haraldsdottir, Radio Arts and Julia Schauerman

01 March 2014

Channel Normal has invited me to live stream ‘primordial’ for its launch on the 6th of March:

www.channelnormal.com

6th to 19th March

Channel Normal is an online exhibition space that predominantly focuses on presenting digital time-based works and / or web-based works.
For more info: info@channelnormal.com

channel normal

15 October 2013

Selected to screen a 10 min recording of ‘primordial’ at:

ESPACIO ENTER CANARIAS 2013 - International Festival of Creativity, Innovation & Digital Culture

Espacio Enter Canarias 2013

29th november to 1st december of 2013

Category: Artists International Call EEC013
Tag: generativeart

TEA Tenerife Espacio de las Artes
Avda. de San Sebastián, 10
38003 S/C de Tenerife.
ISLAS CANARIAS

02 October 2013

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'Microworld : Margate' @ Marine Studios, curated by Genetic Moo

Friday 1st Nov: 6pm-9pm
Saturday 2nd Nov & Sunday 3rd: 12-4pm

Marine Studios
17 Albert Terrace
Margate, CT9 1UJ

Microworld Margate by Genetic Moo

Experience a digital ecosystem which fills the Marine Studios with many living artworks. Engage with a futuristic immersive sound and light show. Trigger cascades of activity around the room as pieces react to your presence.


Microworld Margate includes art works by Genetic Moo, Magz Hall & Jim Backhouse, Julia Schauerman, Sean Clark, Jockel Liess, Ron Hagel, Leona Jones & others.

02 August 2013

Invited to perform 'Dust Music' and 'multitudinous entity' as part of:

Dear Serge at the De La Warr Pavilion

9th November 3-10pm

Marina
Bexhill on Sea
East Sussex TN40 1DP

Dear Serge at De La Warr Pavilion

Dear Serge is a FREE bi-monthly Saturday event at the De La Warr Pavilion showcasing the best in cutting-edge live music, performance and art. A real treat this month as Dear Serge also coincides with the opening of the new exhibitions by Alison Turnbull and Matt Calderwood.

22 June 2013

Invited to participate in the artist in residency program and exhibition:

3RD SPACE - the latest project from Surface Arts in Partnership with Traidhos Three Generation for Learning and H Gallery.

Residency at PTIS - 7th October to 4th November 2013
Exhibition at H GALLERY Chiang Mai - 4th November to 31st December 2013

3rd Space

3RD SPACE is an international exhibition resulting from an artist in residency program at Traidhos PTIS School. The artists hail from Sweden, Germany, Peru, Thailand and the UK. The artists will be involved in a variety of socially-engaged activities throughout their time in Chiang Mai.

Artists: Ittirawee Chotirawee, Emma Hammarén, Taryn Takahashi, Jockel Liess, Chris Czainski, Paul Czainski

29 April 2013

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'Microworld : Arcadia' @ Arcadecardiff, curated by Genetic Moo

Come and play in a digital wonderland

Microworld Arcadia is a ‘living’ art space which grows, transforms and evolves in response to user activity. It heralds a new playful art experience which rewards active engagement. For two weeks, you will be able to immerse yourself in the emergence of a microworld.

21st May to 2nd June, Open Daily (except Mondays) ADMISSION FREE
Private View Friday the 24th of May 6.00 - 8.00pm

Arcadecardiff - Unit 17
Queens Arcade
Cardiff, CF10 2BY

silence and noise

Throughout the show there will be special live events and workshops. The opening night, Friday 24th, will include performance. On Saturday 25th there will be artist talks which will be hosted by Cardiff Dorkbot and the Computer Arts Society. On Sunday 26th there will be a chance to take part in live demonstrations run by the artists where they show you how their projects were constructed. In the second week there will be workshops to learn basic interactive programming and build simple interactive robots. For details visite here.

Microworld will include projects by:
Genetic Moo,Tine Bech, Sean Clark, Jockel Liess, Paul Granjon, Julia Schauerman, Jane Webb, Sean Olsen, Stefan Samociuk, Alexandros Kontogeorgakopoulos


17 February 2013

Invited to perform my improvising computer systems as part of:

'Audio/Visual night for eyes and ears coordinated by Basilar records '
Fusing DJs, Producers, VJs, Visual and Sound Artists to perform live and unique Audio/Visual performances.

"Basilar presents…" defines and captures the ever evolving path of forward thinking Audio/Visual performance, through the use of low-fidelity to cutting edge technology. Live Audio/Visual integration within one environment.

21st Feb - 8pm/2am,
Basilar presents...
@ Babble Jar,
176 Stoke Newington High St - N16 7JL
Admission: Free

silence and noise

15 November 2012

Invited to perform one of my improvising computer systems as part of:

'Silence and Noise'
an evening of experimental music by
Ain Bailey, Jockel Liess, Harmergeddon, Luca Nasciuti, flies+flies

26th of November 8pm till late
Power Lunches
466 Kingsland Rd
London E8 4AE

silence and noise

Ain Bailey
‘Ode to no.6’
Live performance of an electroacoustic engagement with the composer’s living environment, through the use of un/processed electromagnetic recordings of domestic appliances and devices. The composition is an attempt to capture the ‘unheard’ environment in which we exist.
www.ainbailey.com

Jockel Liess
‘Which Is Without Being’
Non-durational generative sound environment, with no clear beginning, end point or progression. The work exists as a state, driven by repeated renewal of itself, within the boundaries of a confined conceptual terrain. Change and musical development inside the work’s trajectory are thereby indeterminate, and dependent on the interaction of individual independent agents within the construct. Resembling a closed system, once set in motion, it relies only on stimulus contained and transmitted within the system. The rhythms, textures, patterns and timbres of its fluid auditory motion are emergent, resulting from self-organisation within the system, rather than predetermined conception. Constructed in its entirety from one 75 millisecond sound sample, initially inspired by the drop of a needle, the sound quality throughout the piece revert to this carefully constructed original sample, which within its acoustic parameters bears the seeds to all inherent audible properties. With the fundamental notions of natural fluidity and a sense of layered fragmentation, 'Which Is Without Being' aspires to awaken within the listener a state of meditative alertness.
www.jockelliess.org

Harmergeddon
‘Put On Your Tinfoil Hats’
Improvisation using electro-magnetic pickups to sonify cultural detritus for transformation and reiteration with live electronics.
Using CRT TV sets, VCRs, mobile phones and other consumer electronic devices Harmergeddon immerse you in nuanced harmonic textures and static landscapes highlighting themes of pollution, phobia and fetishisation.
www.nathanharmer.com

Luca Nasciuti
‘Mirror’
Live laptop performance of new work from his latest release ‘Vanishing Point’
The composition represents a journey back to the composer’s hometown and evaluates the notion of home as a journey rather than a place.
‘If we have retained an element of dream in our memories, if we have gone beyond merely assembling exact recollections, bit by bit the house that was lost in the mists of time will appear from out the shadow. We do nothing to recognize it; with intimacy it recovers its entity, in the mellowness and imprecision of the inner life. It is as though something fluid had collected our memories and we ourselves were dissolved in this fluid of the past’.
(Bachelard 1994 [1958]: 57)
www.lucanasciuti.com

flies+flies
Electronic musician and sound artist Jake Williams and vocalist and songwriter Griffis’ chance meeting triggered a process of developing Dan’s arresting solo work into a fuller arrangement. Combining his haunting vocals with Williams’ 808 beats and fed-back synth drones, they introduced the stark harmonies of Martin Kingston’s cello playing (which also provides a heavy bass level with sub-processing) and searing guitar textures from Yuvi Gerstein.
At ‘Silence and Noise’ they will be giving some new material it's first airing.
www.fliesflies.com

12 September 2012

Invited to exhibit 2 separate pieces of mine as part of the exhibition and the audio visual programme, as well as a live performance of the project Dust Music that I have been involved in.

'SHO-ZYG’ - 21 September - 27 September 2012

Privat View: Thursday 20 September 2012 - 18:00-21:00

Electroacoustic - performance night on the 25th of September 19.00 – 21.30

"Dust Music is an audiovisual work by the artist Trevor Shearer in collaboration with musicians Robert Jack (electronics), Chris Heinrichs (violin), Luca Nasciuti (cello) and Donal Sweeney (double bass) with special assistance from Jockel Liess (video score realization)."

St. James’s Hatcham Church
New Cross
London
SE146AD

A week long exhibition and event series showcasing the work of over fifty artists and researchers working with sound at Goldsmiths.

Open daily, this sound showcase explores a number of landscapes for sonic exploration. Works on display will explore electroacoustics, acoustic ecology, visual music, algorithmic music, psychoacoustics, utterance and soundscape, with dedicated rooms for audiovisual works, 8-channel soundscape compositions, films and sound installations.

The church will also host three additional exhibition areas, exploring the archives of Daphne Oram, co-founder of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, the works of Hugh Davies, pioneering musician and founder of Goldsmiths Electronic Music Studios, and the current working practice of poet, visual artist and performer Lawrence Upton.

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PUBLIC OPENING HOURS

Friday 21/09/2012 - 10:00-16:00
Saturday 22/09/2012 - 10:00-16:00
Sunday 23/09/2012 - 10:00-14:00
Monday 24/09/2012 - closed
Tuesday 25/09/2012 - 10:00-17:00
Wednesday 26/09/2012 - 10:00-17:00
Thursday 27/09/2012 - 10:00-17:00

Please see http://www.sho-zyg.com/ for further details.

Supported by Goldsmiths Sound Practice Research.

sho-zyg

29 May 2012

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

'Sonic CueB’ - 4 June - 7 June 2012
with a
Performance night of live electronic music - Wednesday 6th of June form 8pm

At CueB Gallery

CueB Gallery
325 Brockley Road
London  SE4 2QZ

Sonic Cueb

 

20 June 2011

Invited to take part in the exhibition:

‘Absinthe and Presents’ - 8 July - 20 August 2011

At The Brewhouse Gallery
Brewhouse Theatre & Arts Centre
Coal Orchard Taunton Somerset TA1 1J

Absinthe and Presents

Absinthe and Presents

 

Five international artists, chosen for their wide range of artistic media, aim to represent objects and materials in new ways that give immediate visceral visual pleasure. By making a collision of the precious and the everyday, the artworks balance a duality of image and concept. This exhibition aims to be on the cusp of delight and disgust. The title and theme for this exhibition, Absinthe And Presents, is derived from the Freudian dialectic of Absence And Presence and is used as a metaphor that places an emphasis on excess. In the words of poet Edward Dowson "madder music and stronger wine".

Featured artists:

Ittirawee Chotirawee, Emma Hammarén, Francis Ives, Jockel Liess and Taryn Takahashi

8 June 2011

Invited to take part in the exhibition::
‘You are not in control’ - A Submit2gravity exhibition at Netil House

Netil House
1 Westgate Street
London E8 3RL

Opening night: 23 June 2011
Opening time: 6pm-11pm
Free Entry

Exhibition runs: 24 June – 7 July 2011
Opening times: 11am-6pm
£3 Admission Fee
Free entry for children under 12yrs

Tickets can be purchased at the door or advanced tickets booked via the website (subject to
booking fee).

You are not in control

 

‘You are not in control’ is the new exhibition curated by Rita Parente and Submit2gravity, within
which our cultural perceptions are challenged through a selection of multidisciplinary artworks.
The organic, aesthetic reference of the ‘real’ becomes manufactured and transformed by images
and digital media. As with all of Submit2gravitys’ shows, we aim to engage the viewer as a
participant where the artist seeks to make some sense of the world in which we exist. Throughout
the exhibition the viewer can observe, play and participate becoming directly involved in the
exhibition to experience Art in this interactive, multisensory show.

Throughout the show images, installations and illusions that we observe tap into our
consciousness of the familiar, culturally perverse pretence of our existence, and seemingly build
on our experience through this perception of the real.

Submit2gravity will present ‘You are not in control’ in the gallery located on the ground floor of
Netil House. Traditional art forms will sit alongside modern innovation in an extraordinary
exhibition showcasing the talents of emerging and established artists from the UK and overseas.
Playful and engaging on so many levels ‘You are not in control’ encompasses art and innovation
integrated under one umbrella. Featuring interactive animation, live audio and visual installation
responsive to the environment, to paintings created from soundscape’s, drawings, and
sculptures.

‘You are not in control’ is an exhibition that is accessible and is aimed to reach out to a wider
community to all people interested in the Visual Arts.

Featured artists:

Genetic Moo, Jockel Liess, Shona Davies David Monaghan & Jon Klein, Marianne Walker, Garry Martin, Hung Jung-Ouk, Michael Tierney, Timothy B Layden, Bernardo Bento, David Theobald, Christian Kerrigan

20 November 2010

Invited to take part in the event:
Curiouser and curiouser - Sat 20 November (6pm -11pm) & Sun 21 November (11am-4pm)
Tickets £ 7

Organised by Submit2gravity.

The Old Vic Tunnels, Station Approach
London SE1 7NN

curiouser and curiouser

Submit2gravity are proud to be the organisers of one in a series of innovative and surprising arts events taking place throughout 2010 at the Old Vic Tunnels. The Curiouser and curiouser event coordinated and set up by Submit2gravity has evolved from an open submission call out that led to some exciting and unusual proposals received from across the globe.

This event will bring together an extraordinary, innovative and diverse range of art forms with dramatic and surprising results. Kinetic sculptures, interactive installation, visual and sound pieces and theatre groups will all interact within this unique setting to create a strange wonderland of curiosities.

The Old Vic Tunnels act like a tardis as they  open out into a labyrinth of unexpected tunnels, corridors and huge vaults, that will entice you further and further into a surreal and dreamlike world that becomes curiouser and curiouser...


Featured artists

 Cheryl Field, Balint Bolygo, David Theobald, Darren Harvey Regan, Shona Davies & David Monaghan, Cristina Marignoli, Genetic Moo, Jockel Liess, Christian Kerrigan, Marianne Walker, Kaz, Rosie Leventon, Dan Knight, Guglielmo Alfarone, Stathis Dimitriadis, Michele Drascek, Helena Ohman Mc Cardle, Heena Kim, Gordon Flemons, Kelly Jackson, John Routledge, Issac Cordal, Rodrigo Pires, Giancarlo, Jennifer Ross, Jonathan Wright, Lesley Bunch, Barbara Fuch, Thomas Brandt and Alba Zapater, Natasha L Swingler

Theatre companies

 Filskit Theatre
Show performance:
Saturday 20 November 6pm - 11pm
Sunday 21 November 11am - 1pm

Dreckly Productions
Show performance:
Saturday 20 November (tbc)
Sunday 21 November (tbc)

 

16 July 2010

Invited to take part in the exhibition:
Nexus - July 16 – September 1
in the Phoenix Gallery
Exeter, UK

nexus

Sally Barker, Adam Bone, Katie Etheridge, Gabrielle Hoad, Francis Ives, Pria Kundi, George Lazenbleep, Jockel Liess, Volkhardt Muller, Alexander Schikowski, Felicity Shillingford, Rupert White.

Nexus highlights the way that artists operate within broad networks, often starting with their geographic location but also functioning through their personal and professional relationships, creative practices and intersections with other networks and organisations.

Four Exeter-based contemporary artists invited artists from their own personal creative networks to exhibit alongside them in this group show. Bypassing the usual curatorial process, Nexus has evolved through a process of negotiation and cross-fertilisation, as well as creative serendipity and friction. New and unexpected relationships and outcomes are thrown up, which both centre on and reach out from the artists' own city.

Bringing into play the idea of the garden as a symbolic format for the presentation of these otherwise unrelated works, the four original artists (Gabrielle Hoad, Francis Ives, Volkhardt Muller & Felicity Shillingford) not only highlight ideas of growth, cultivation and cross-pollination, but more broadly of cultural landscape and a sense of geographical place.